Its Easy for a Women to Get Laid
Why do people say this? It is not true. It is just a friendzone male whiny type of BS.
I'm not saying women have it tougher, but I believe any "difficulties" are equal. For example.
Women have social stigmas attached to any sexual behavior they engage in, especially if they initiate it. So even if they wanted to "get laid" the idea of being thought of as "easy" may hold some women back. These standards are not held to men.
Furthermore, we've all seen it the "i'm a virgin should I lose it in a brothel" thread. I believe it is easier and perhaps more acceptable for men to do this.
The man argument people seem to put forward is "women can get it from anywhere, anytime". Think about it. Do you really think that is true?? This links to my first point also. If a women came up to you out of the blue, I doubt you'd say yes.
What are your thoughts on this?
EDIT: Not really much reason to give negative repetition, if you don't agree just discuss it. Negative reputation should be reserved for people trolling not for debating.
(Original post by Nyheter)
Why do people say this? It is not true. It is just a friendzone male whiny type of BS.
I'm not saying women have it tougher, but I believe any "difficulties" are equal. For example.
Women have social stigmas attached to any sexual behavior they engage in, especially if they initiate it. So even if they wanted to "get laid" the idea of being thought of as "easy" may hold some women back. These standards are not held to men.
Furthermore, we've all seen it the "i'm a virgin should I lose it in a brothel" thread. I believe it is easier and perhaps more acceptable for men to do this.
The man argument people seem to put forward is "women can get it from anywhere, anytime". Think about it. Do you really think that is true?? This links to my first point also. If a women came up to you out of the blue, I doubt you'd say yes.
What are your thoughts on this?
I think when people say this, they mean if you actually tried. I think they mean consensual sex with a partner, not a prostitute.
So while women might be less inclined to have sex, if they actually try then it is less difficult for them to do so.
Also, I'm guessing you're a girl?
(Original post by Nyheter)
Why do people say this? It is not true. It is just a friendzone male whiny type of BS.
I'm not saying women have it tougher, but I believe any "difficulties" are equal. For example.
Women have social stigmas attached to any sexual behavior they engage in, especially if they initiate it. So even if they wanted to "get laid" the idea of being thought of as "easy" may hold some women back. These standards are not held to men.
Furthermore, we've all seen it the "i'm a virgin should I lose it in a brothel" thread. I believe it is easier and perhaps more acceptable for men to do this.
The man argument people seem to put forward is "women can get it from anywhere, anytime". Think about it. Do you really think that is true?? This links to my first point also. If a women came up to you out of the blue, I doubt you'd say yes.
What are your thoughts on this?
Your kinda mixing two ideas there, i believe that generally it's easier for a girl to pull a guy, what those people do after said "pull" is completley up to them, if they go and have a ONS then that's what happens
Before i get negged; i class pulling as getting someone come over to you and talk to you without any real effort on your part, the phrase i use is; all a girl has to do is be cute and bat her eyelids and she will have at least one guy wanting to talk to her.
Note i KNOW i'm generalising here, i know plenty of people that have disproved my theory, i'm man enough to admit when someone has put forward an argument that trumps mine, i have seen this happen on many a uni night out
I personally believe it's harder for guys to pull as we have to try harder ...
(Original post by Tcrumpen)
Your kinda mixing two ideas there, i believe that generally it's easier for a girl to pull a guy, what those people do after said "pull" is completley up to them, if they go and have a ONS then that's what happens
Before i get negged; i class pulling as getting someone come over to you and talk to you without any real effort on your part, the phrase i use is; all a girl has to do is be cute and bat her eyelids and she will have at least one guy wanting to talk to her.
Note i KNOW i'm generalising here, i know plenty of people that have disproved my theory, i'm man enough to admit when someone has put forward an argument that trumps mine, i have seen this happen on many a uni night out
I personally believe it's harder for guys to pull as we have to try harder ...
"Bat her eyelids" Oh dear!
It's not simple, here you talk about a "cute" girl right. So is every girl cute?
By that logic I can just say all a guy has to do is be hot and can get any girl so it's easier for men
(Original post by PythianLegume)
I think when people say this, they mean if you actually tried. I think they mean consensual sex with a partner, not a prostitute.
So while women might be less inclined to have sex, if they actually try then it is less difficult for them to do so.
Also, I'm guessing you're a girl?
Not really important if I am a girl or not is it, or do you want to say my argument is less valid because I am a particular gender?
Why is it less difficult? I don't understand why people believe this just seems like an attempt to lick wounds.
Who has more success?
I think you're not understanding what people mean when they say it. People are assuming, when they say this, that you actually want to get someone, that you are okay with doing that.
Simple fact is that males tend to have higher sex drives so are less picky (probably not the best word) when it comes to pulling.
Here's a hypothetical: Have an average girl go up to a group of guys and ask them if any of them want to have sex with her. Have an average guy do the same to some girls and see if you get the same result.
Ah, you beat me to it.
I think it is easier for women to get it, but also they have more social stigma if they actually do so. probably in part because it is easier.
(Original post by Nyheter)
"Bat her eyelids" Oh dear!
It's not simple, here you talk about a "cute" girl right. So is every girl cute?
By that logic I can just say all a guy has to do is be hot and can get any girl so it's easier for men
Not really important if I am a girl or not is it, or do you want to say my argument is less valid because I am a particular gender?
Why is it less difficult? I don't understand why people believe this just seems like an attempt to lick wounds.
Cute isn't something that can really be described, it's something that we just know, and it's harder for guys to be "hot" especially guys such as myself who are lanky for whatever reason, "what chance to guys like myself have with girls like that" you may deny it but the fact is you tend to go for muscle on first impression, it is not your fault it's in your biology to want to find a attractive mate that could protect your young, just like it is in ours to want to reproduce
But all us guys see is the intial contact, we don't know if it leads to a ONS or a realationship, all we see if guys with muscles getting attention from girl, which is all guys like us want, just attention, you don't have to go up to us and give us a lap dance, just talk to us, most guys like me are really nice to talk to we are just shy (why? see above point)
contray to popular belief, guys do have feelings too
(Original post by Nyheter)
"Bat her eyelids" Oh dear!
It's not simple, here you talk about a "cute" girl right. So is every girl cute?
By that logic I can just say all a guy has to do is be hot and can get any girl so it's easier for men
Not really important if I am a girl or not is it, or do you want to say my argument is less valid because I am a particular gender?
Why is it less difficult? I don't understand why people believe this just seems like an attempt to lick wounds.
I just suspected you were a girl because you said 'if someone came up to you and asked for sex, you would turn them down' - girls think like this, blokes don't.
There's actually been proper studies on this that found similar results.
(Original post by Aisha~~)
Who has more success?
Yes I knew someone was going to post this. Should have posted it myself..
Yes the girl gets more yeses. She is an attractive slim girl in shortshorts, assume what straight men would like.
But I discount this situation to be honest, it's not the girls real intentions. I believe if it was real she would be more shy to ask due to the whole social pressures of being seen as "easy".
The boy gets no I believe because of it, did you see that mixed race possible girl linger on the situation. If there were no pressures for her, you can tell she would have.
Also I want to add thanks for posting them, they are very scientific, so we should just end the discussion right?
Bottom line - if a female walks up to a single male and asks if he wants to ****. Chances are he'll say yes.
Flip it round and you've got a public disorder offence.
(Original post by lucaf)
I think it is easier for women to get it, but also they have more social stigma if they actually do so. probably in part because it is easier.
This combined with the references to the studies above regarding impromptu sexual invitations.
(Original post by Nyheter)
Yes I knew someone was going to post this. Should have posted it myself..
Yes the girl gets more yeses. She is an attractive slim girl in shortshorts, assume what straight men would like.
But I discount this situation to be honest, it's not the girls real intentions. I believe if it was real she would be more shy to ask due to the whole social pressures of being seen as "easy".
The boy gets no I believe because of it, did you see that mixed race possible girl linger on the situation. If there were no pressures for her, you can tell she would have.
Also I want to add thanks for posting them, they are very scientific, so we should just end the discussion right?
Clarke and Hatfield, 1989, did something similar to the Youtube videos, with a bit more control. Amazingly, 75% of men agreed to have sex, compared to 0% of women.
Whether or not women want to just ask out random men is irrelevant - the point is that they would have more success if they did. And the fact that the woman may have said no due to social pressures just proves your argument to be wrong - women won't go with random men due to social pressures, but men won't. Hence it is easier for women to pick up men.
(Original post by Nyheter)
But I discount this situation to be honest, it's not the girls real intentions. I believe if it was real she would be more shy to ask due to the whole social pressures of being seen as "easy".
The boy gets no I believe because of it, did you see that mixed race possible girl linger on the situation. If there were no pressures for her, you can tell she would have.
Also I want to add thanks for posting them, they are very scientific, so we should just end the discussion right?
So basically your argument boils down to this;
"In a world where there's no social pressure, guys and girl can both get laid as easily as each other."
We don't live in a world without social pressure and never will, so as it stands it IS easier for a girl to get laid than a guy. Your argument only stands up in an imaginary world in your head.
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(Original post by Tcrumpen)
Cute isn't something that can really be described, it's something that we just know, and it's harder for guys to be "hot" especially guys such as myself who are lanky for whatever reason, "what chance to guys like myself have with girls like that" you may deny it but the fact is you tend to go for muscle on first impression, it is not your fault it's in your biology to want to find a attractive mate that could protect your young, just like it is in ours to want to reproduce
But all us guys see is the intial contact, we don't know if it leads to a ONS or a realationship, all we see if guys with muscles getting attention from girl, which is all guys like us want, just attention, you don't have to go up to us and give us a lap dance, just talk to us, most guys like me are really nice to talk to we are just shy (why? see above point)
contray to popular belief, guys do have feelings too
Wow you are totally right(!!) Girls never get that sort of feeling, from what they see in mens magazines and fashion magazines, pornography etc that guys are looking for a certain type of girl
That muscle thing made me barf, so stupid.
So girls don't have the same pressures??? To put on make-up, wear nice clothes/ attention grabbing clothes, have a "fit" body... etc
I am NOT saying that girls have it harder but the difficulties are EQUAL.
(Original post by Steezy)
Bottom line - if a female walks up to a single male and asks if he wants to ****. Chances are he'll say yes.
Flip it round and you've got a public disorder offence.
You are picturing a dream scenario of a (subconsciously)hot girl coming up to you but you are not thinking realistically so I don't think the "guy" will say yes.
(Original post by Nyheter)
Wow you are totally right(!!) Girls never get that sort of feeling, from what they see in mens magazines and fashion magazines, pornography etc that guys are looking for a certain type of girl
That muscle thing made me barf, so stupid.
So girls don't have the same pressures??? To put on make-up, wear nice clothes/ attention grabbing clothes, have a "fit" body... etc
I am NOT saying that girls have it harder but the difficulties are EQUAL.
Most girls i know that i deem attractive, look attractive with or without makeup, guys don't really notice it ... at least i don't
(Original post by Aisha~~)
So basically your argument boils down to this;
"In a world where there's no social pressure, guys and girl can both get laid as easily as each other."
We don't live in a world without social pressure and never will, so as it stands it IS easier for a girl to get laid than a guy. Your argument only stands up in an imaginary world in your head.
But don't you understand in the REAL world girls do have social pressures so it is not as easy for them to be free and get laid even if they may desire too.
(Original post by Nyheter)
Wow you are totally right(!!) Girls never get that sort of feeling, from what they see in mens magazines and fashion magazines, pornography etc that guys are looking for a certain type of girl
That muscle thing made me barf, so stupid.
So girls don't have the same pressures??? To put on make-up, wear nice clothes/ attention grabbing clothes, have a "fit" body... etc
I am NOT saying that girls have it harder but the difficulties are EQUAL.
You are picturing a dream scenario of a (subconsciously)hot girl coming up to you but you are not thinking realistically so I don't think the "guy" will say yes.
If I'm single and got a condom, anything over a 5 will probably get a yes.
Roles reversed and a random girl would require atleast a 9 to consider it.
(Original post by Steezy)
If I'm single and got a condom, anything over a 5 will probably get a yes.
Roles reversed and a random girl would require atleast a 9 to consider it.
Also supported by Clarke and Hatfield's research - the differences decrease as the asker gets more attractive. Deep down, women are just as shallow as us
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